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Deciphering the KIA Egregore Ouija messages

On Friday the 18th of October 2013, five KIA Agents assembled together to contact the KIA Egregore using Ouija board with English Qabala Cypher written across it. Last Friday myself and @anton finished interpreting/decoding the first two answers. The process was a lengthy one but from the start the results obtained captured our imagination and motivated us to carry on. I decoded large part of this when @anton was at work but a lot of it was done by both of us.

First thing we did was to feed the letter sequences given to us during the ouija play into enigmagick program which gave us the triangle of numbers. Then we looked up corresponding phrases in Liber Al and try constructing meaningful answers from it. This turned out fairly easy with the first question. Below you can see the exact results obtained.

Q1. Do you have any questions for us?

WVQZ LR

40 14

54

First Veil: 54: who cry?

Second Veil: 40 14 cry who?

We selected phrases that are meaningful answers, of which we felt ‘who cry?’ was the only one in the First Veil. Of the possible results this was the only one that took the form of a question. Then we did the same for the Second Veil. The list of results is given below so you can understand the process.

40: shed, ye, have, sake, woes, is so, by all, gross, hair, hour, as she, at an, also of, or on, a joy a, cry, of all Ah! Ah!, MOR, hardly, as a sword, altar, host,

14: shall, who, how

54: who cry?

We chose words and phrases for 40 followed by 14 assuming that this is the order given to us by KIA Egregore. We then looked if any of the combinations make sense to us. We achieved a repeated result of inverted structure to the Fist Veil result. Cry Who? To double check our result you can type the numbers or letter sequences to enigmagick, or follow the numbered links above.

In the ouija board rite this letter sequence was directly followed by planchette moving onto ‘NO’. Our interpretation of this message is that KIA Egregore asks ‘who is asking?’ and says they have no further questions. This result is amusing and striking in that we forgot to introduce ourselves to KIA when saying hello.

We used the exact the same method to decode the second question. It was a more complex process as the letter sequence was in 3 parts resulting in Three Veils instead of Two.

Q2. What is the message of KIA?

NZ VONCHRHPLPN JGTSNOX

22 132 99

154 231

253

First Veil: 253

Second Veil: 154 231

Third Veil: 22 132 99

The interpretation of these veils produced a long poetic text we intuitively arranged to form the KIA Litany.

KIA Egregore group sigil charging.

On Sunday evening, towards the close of the retreat weekend, we started creating a mass sigil, to be charged by the KIA egregore. As preparation I had created a pencil outline of a kind of KIA logo that combines elements of current, previous and possible future KIA logos. These elements include a shatkona, a vesica pisces containing an eye, Austin Spares glyph for Kia, and Michael Moorcock’s sigil of chaos. I did so on a large A2 sized sheet of cartridge paper which I taped to a wooden board. I provided black, red, blue and green marker pens of two different thicknesses for agents to draw their sigils.

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I had invited those not able to attend to submit sigils online, in a post on Crowleymas, (Oct 12th). I made sure that external submissions were included in the final design.  As we sat and talked, we took turns adding to the sigil, each of us making several visits and adding more each time. As we went to bed on Sunday night, the sigil remained unfinished, so we left out and continued on Monday morning over a casual breakfast.

This was the result:

kia-egregore-sigil

You can help charge it using whatever method of sigil charging suits you. Probably staring at it for a short while will do the trick…

 

 

Contacting the KIA Egregore with Ouija board!

It was the October full moon as we opened the 2013 KIA retreat, and it seemed like a good night to talk to the KIA Egregore. In the past we’ve done this via a computer program that randomly combines sentences provided by various KIA agents. But that program is currently broken, and besides, this time we decided to opt for something a bit more Victoriana: an English Qabalah ouija board.

After opening the rite with a KIA IAO Centring ritual, we sat around the board and began our first experiments with the board. The atmosphere was relaxed and at first we had to try out a few different items as a planchette, ultimately settling upon an upturned glass tealight holder.

ouija1

Even then it seemed reluctant to move from ‘Hello’, once it had moved there, so we stopped for a break and practised some glossolalia to shift conscious awareness away from the rational part our minds.

What follows is an account of the conversation with the spirit that followed.  In italics are the questions we spoke aloud to the spirit, in bold are its messages to us. Some of these messages need to be deciphered using English Qabalah. We will make a post about those later. The board has spaces for Hello, Bye, Yes and No, in addition to the letters of the English alphabet.

Hello KIA.

Hello.

Q1. Do you have any questions for us?

1

What is it?

WVQZ 

Is this for the cipher?

(pause)

L

Do you want us to work this out later on?

R

No

At this point the planchette became  unresponsive. We decided to move the next prepared question and rotate the scribe.

Q2 What is the message of KIA?

NZ0

Nothing?

VONCHRHPLPNJGTSNOX

KIA, are you having a laugh with us?

Yes.

Do you want us to move on to the next question?

Yes.

Again we changed scribe as we moved on to the next question. We did this between each numbered question.

Q3. Where should we go from here?

TIWCZ

Is the TIW part a reference to the Norse god?

The planchette was stuck again, we moved it back to the centre.

Z (pause) RVR

Do you want to move to the next question?

No.

Do you want to finish?

A

Tyrannosaurus?

CP4

That sounds interesting!

No.

Maybe we should move to the next question?

Yes.

Q4. Are you happy with the direction we are going in?

Planchette moved near the Yes.

It’s not quite on it.

Yes. (suddenly moved onto it more clearly.)

SEVAVTI

Save something?

Yes.

HES

He’s?

Yes.

ON (pause) U

He’s on you?

Yes.

HAND

He’s on your hand?

Yes.

Who are you?

NAYX

Yes.

OLD

Old One?

Yes.

Nyarlathotep?

Yes.

F (pause) OAKYPLPL

People?

Yes.

Polish People?

6

Planchette stops moving again.

Do you have anything more to say?

Yes. But planchette doesn’t move again.

Shall we move onto next question?

Yes.

Q5. Do you want something to drink?

No.

Should we have asked that at the start?

0 VASIWCXL

No.

Should we ask next question?

Yes.

Q6. What is your time cycle?

92c1K

K = 1000?

Yes.

Did K come after C?

Yes.

Is it 1192? (92 + C + 1K)

No.

Is it 1209? (9+2c+1K)

Yes.

Years?

Yes.

Is it Solar years?

No.

Is it years of some other star system?

Yes.

Is it Sirius?

No.

Is it Orion?

Yes.

Is it in Orion’s belt?

Yes.

Central star?

Yes.

OAN

Oannes?

Yes.

Oannes is normally from Sirius.

No.

Did you mean aeons?

No.

JO

Joshua?

No.

John?

Yes.

EJRHEU

Jehovah?

No.

F

JFK?

No.

Stop suggesting stupid things?

Yes.

C

Is this all one sequence?

Yes. (Which makes ‘EJRHEU F C’

Is this a cipher?

Yes.

Do you have any other message?

5

Yes.

HACA

Hekate?

Yes.

ZNRLE (pause)

YPNEDZ

End of message?

No.

WGWRYVU

Gaps for separate ciphers?

Yes.

ONRUUPMZNRWE

Yes.

End of message?

Bye.

Preparation for Egregore sigil charging ritual

With the the KIA retreat starting in less than a week, I have some last minute preparations to do. As I was preparing a mass sigil charging rite to be empowered by the KIA Egregore, it occurred to me that we could accept sigil submissions from those of you who can not attend in body.

You can expect a full write-up of how this and other rituals went, after the event.

You can attach images of any sigils you want included in the ritual in the comments below.

 

KIA Retreat – October 2013

First off, for various reasons I won’t go into, we can no longer do the retreat on our prefered dates of Crowleymas this year.  But if we get two or three more confirmations, we CAN do it the following week.

UPDATE: The retreat is going ahead this weekend, with at least 5 people in attendance, however it might not be at any of the places mentioned below. Any new comers with whom we haven’t had existing contact should at this point meet with us prior to the retreat itself. A good place. and possibly the only opportunity to do this, is at the Open Circle Moot on Wednesday 16th.  The greyed out text below is no longer the plan, but is left in place so you can see what we originally intended for the retreat.

That will mean arriving at Loch Ness on Friday 18th of October, and leaving on Monday 21st.

Second, the Lodge, as we know from last year, has one master double room with balcony and spring bath, one double bedroom and one twin room with two single beds.  It seems a little unfair to charge the same price for all these options, so this year we would like to divide the cost up as follows:

Master double: £235 (can sleep two).

Double: £210 (can sleep two).

Twin: £180 (can sleep two).

Total cost of lodge is £625.

The hot tub on the veranda is available to all staying in the lodge.

So far, we have three confirmed guests, including myself and Lolita who are happy to take the Master bedroom.  Our other guest is a single male who would occupy one of the beds in the twin room.  This means we can accommodate one other couple and another single in this lodge.

If we got another 4-6 guests in addition to this we could book two lodges, or if we got 1-3 extra there is a B&B nearby that can offer accommodation at similar prices.  But not self catering.

If however, we don’t get any more confirmations, the meeting this year will not be held in a lodge at all.  It doesn’t make sense for us to book the lodge at £200 each, as I originally posted.  I think that is too expensive for us all.  As cool as the weekend is.  Let me know what you all want to do.

KIA Retreat 2012

After the successful and enjoable KIA Retreat 2012 in Foyers by Loch Ness, and a short walk from Boleskin House, the KIA Egregore feels stronger than ever.  Much of the retreat has been written up in detail, so I’ll use this post to summarise the writeup so it gets contained in one place:

Also I’d just like to add, that I had originally intended a group healing rite at some point, although I had no definite plan for how that would happen.  When one of our group contacted a spirit that seemed to have healing properties I suggested we ask it, but the one that made contact seemed reluctant to do this so I didn’t pursue this further.  Instead when I found myself alone in the hot-tub I meditated on the healing energies of the experience.  After absorbing the healing I felt I needed for myself I thought of projecting outwards to those I had heard were in need:

  1. A relative of +Dositheos that had been injured in an act of violence.
  2. Those on the Congregational Illuminism healing list.  I didn’t have the list on me but thought about sending healing energies in support of whoever might be on it.

So a good time was had by all.  Next year, we shall make it bigger and better…

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